Census concern: Immigrants may avoid the count: Arizona Central

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Census concern: Immigrants may avoid the count

by Daniel González - Apr. 13, 2009 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic

With the 2010 census less than a year away, officials have launched a campaign to build trust with undocumented immigrants amid growing concern that millions of people in the country illegally will be afraid to be counted.

At the same time, some immigrant advocates are threatening to tell undocumented immigrants to boycott the census in retaliation for immigration crackdowns, a move that would deny recession-starved cities and towns much-needed federal tax dollars, which are allocated based on population.

The emerging political battle over the census is of particular concern in Arizona, where the huge undocumented population and an ongoing high-profile crackdown have resulted in the arrest and deportation of tens of thousands of illegal immigrants.

The state could lose millions of dollars in federal funding for roads, schools, redevelopment and other projects if large numbers of people are overlooked, said Vianey Celestino, an Arizona spokeswoman for the U.S. Census Bureau.

The census is also used to redraw congressional districts every 10 years. If the census accurately reflects a state's growing population, it could gain seats.

"We are trying to count everyone," Celestino said.

During the 2000 census, 63 percent of the state's residents returned forms. The national response rate was 67 percent, according to census officials.

Census officials estimate that nearly 75,000 Arizona residents were overlooked in 2000, including about 18,750 people in Phoenix, said Tammy Perkins, an official in the Phoenix City Manager's Office.

A similar undercount in 2010 would cost Phoenix $75 million in revenue over 10 years, Perkins said.

Hard-to-count groups

President Barack Obama has been accused of trying to politicize the decennial head count in favor of Democrats. Last week he nominated University of Michigan sociology professor and statistical sampling expert Robert Groves to run the Census Bureau, drawing criticism from Republicans who fear Obama wants to use sampling in addition to the person-by-person tally to calculate immigrants, minorities and other hard-to-count groups that tend to favor Democrats.

Census officials recently began contacting churches, schools and community organizations to help deliver the message that the census has nothing to do with immigration status.

The Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix, for example, plans to ask priests of Spanish-speaking congregations to urge parishioners to participate, said Hispanic Ministry Director José Robles.

The U.S. Constitution mandates that, every 10 years, the government count everyone who lives in the U.S. The Census Bureau does not care about immigration status and does not share the information it collects with enforcement agencies, Celestino said.

Beginning in mid-March, the Census Bureau will send questionnaires to every residence in the country. The forms will ask for the names, birth dates and other information of each person living at each residence. The forms do not ask about immigration status. If questionnaires are not returned by the end of April, Census workers will visit each residence up to six times to try to get a response.

Some community leaders are worried that immigrants in the country illegally will be afraid to answer the door if they confuse Census officials wearing federal badges with immigration agents. But officials said they need not worry about anyone showing up if they mail back the census forms.

"What we want to emphasize is increasing the response rate. That is what our energies are focused on," said Pamela Lucero, the Denver regional partnership coordinator for the Census Bureau. "Our message is: 'Send it back.' "

Immigration enforcement

Even without stepped-up immigration enforcement, immigrants already were among the most difficult groups to count because of language barriers and cultural fears of the government.

"I know that people are afraid of the different raids we are having in the state, especially in Maricopa County, but we can assure them that this information (will be) perfectly safe," Celestino said.

There are about 500,000 illegal immigrants in Arizona, or about 9 percent of the population, the highest share of any state in the nation, according to estimates by the Pew Hispanic Center, a research group in Washington, D.C.

Immigration and Customs Enforcement in Arizona deported 73,000 illegal immigrants during the last fiscal year, up 64 percent compared with the previous year, which officials largely attributed to more state and local police departments enforcing federal immigration laws, including the controversial neighborhood sweeps and work-site raids conducted by Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio.

In response to the immigration enforcement, some immigrant advocates in Phoenix and other parts of the country are threatening to tell undocumented immigrants to boycott the census.

"This (idea) has been tossed around all over America," said Alfredo Gutierrez, an immigrant advocate in Phoenix who has a daily radio program on La Campesina, a Spanish radio station (88.3 FM). "This is one time they want to count the Mexicans. They didn't want to before, but they do now. There is a certain amount of hypocrisy and irony in that."

Michael Nowakowski, a Phoenix city councilman who chairs the city's census committee, said a census boycott is a bad idea because it would reduce federal assistance for education and other programs that benefit immigrants and their children.

"I believe it would have a huge impact, but the huge impact would be on the immigrant community," he said.

Arpaio said he has no intention of backing off from his immigration crackdown because of the census.

"Do you really think I am going to stop enforcing the law because of the census? We are going to continue enforcing all the laws including the immigration laws. I don't care about the census," Arpaio said.

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4-10-2009 @10:36 PM ~ Gracias Hermano Ron ~ I am glad you are down there to help represent us along with the other companeros and companeras. I regret not being able to make it down there in the flesh but I will be there in spirit. I have my own refugees to help out at the Emergency Shelter I work at up here in Sacramento. I consider all Americans who are homeless in the streets also refugees and we have some from other countries. An elderly feisty Russian who is disabled wandering the streets with a cane, a lost Ukrainian young girl left outside to fend for herself around these predators that haunts the streets around here now. Imagine a hard working brother from Mexico who has been here for years but lost his job, became homeless and now he is at the shelter. Yes, YA BASTA! Enough is enough!

We should demand out loud complete amnesty for those who are in jeopardy of beind labeled an illegal alient and deported. There should be an immediate moratorium on all immigration cases involving Mexicans who are under ICE until this whole issue is settled once and for all. Yes, we are in a unique situation somewhat similiar to the Palestinian people. Our people did not create or cross the border, the border crossed us and the U.S.A. continues to double-cross us.

The truth is that the Obama regime, as much as I support Obama in general and respect him as a humane being, does not have a concrete clue as to what to do about 'the immigration issue' nor are they bold enough to come up and out with a strong solution to the whole dilemna. We should demand a GENERAL AMNESTY!!!!!

At the same time, we should closely observe our non-Latino allies in the progressive movement inside the United States who say they are with us, who say SI SE PUEDE! and keep them in tight solidarity with us on this central core American issue.

This whole 'immigration issue' will make or break families, alliances and coalitions in ways no one can completely foresee!

How can a people whose descendants have been here for many millenniums of thousands of year, for as long as anyone can remember, from before recorded history possibly ever be considered a foreigner!!! It is insane and the government has long been insane on the whole immigration issue and the Mexican people.

 

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Sent: Thursday, April 9, 2009 10:46:47 AM
Subject: [NetworkAztlan_News] NYTimes: Obama to Push Immigration Bill Despite the Risks

This is why we MUST continue the pressure on President Obama to push forward. We know that for political reasons, he will try to pass some weak "Comprehensive Immigration Reform" like the one that Representative Luis V. Gutierrez from Chicago is trying to push. This is when the grassroots coalitions must unite together and send a powerful message to DC; "STOP ALL ICE RAIDS and FULL LEGALIZATION NOW"

This is going to be discussed this weekend at the Southern California Immigration Coalition's Immigration UNITY Conference. Over 50 speakers from across California are already confirmed; including elected officials like Senator Gil Cedillo, Community organizers from organizations like Hermandad Mexicana, Union Del Barrio, authors like David Bacon, university professors like Raul Hinojosa and Gilbert Gonzales, leaders like Angela Sanbrano from NALACC, Christian Ramirez from the American Friends Service Committee and Pablo Alvarado from
NDLON, attorneys like Peter Schey and the list goes on and on...

Together, we can pressure President Obama to do what's right! The Southern CA Immigration Coalition has THREE Central Demands.

1. Stop ALL ICE Raids NOW!
2. FULL LEGALIZATION for ALL!
3. No Bracero/Guest Worker Program!

See you at the conference this Saturday!! www.immigrationcoal ition.org

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Obama to Push Immigration Bill Despite the Risks

By JULIA PRESTON

While acknowledging that the recession makes the political battle more
difficult, President Obama plans to begin addressing the country's
immigration
system this year, including looking for a path for illegal immigrants
to become legal, a senior administration official said on Wednesday.

Mr. Obama will frame the new effort — likely to rouse passions on
all sides of the highly divisive issue — as "policy reform that
controls immigration and makes it an orderly system," said the
official, Cecilia Muñoz, deputy assistant to the president and director
of intergovernmental affairs in the White House.

Mr. Obama plans to speak publicly about the issue in May,
administration officials said, and over the summer he will convene
working groups, including lawmakers from both parties and a range of
immigration groups, to begin discussing possible legislation for as
early as this fall.

Some White House officials said that immigration would not take
precedence over the health care and energy proposals
that Mr. Obama has
identified as priorities. But the timetable is consistent with pledges
Mr. Obama made to Hispanic groups in last year's campaign.

He said then that comprehensive immigration legislation, including a
plan to make legal status possible for an estimated 12 million illegal
immigrants, would be a priority in his first year in office. Latino
voters turned out strongly for Mr. Obama in the election.

"He intends to start the debate this year," Ms. Muñoz said.

But with the economy seriously ailing, advocates on different sides
of the debate said that immigration could become a polarizing issue for
Mr. Obama in a year when he has many other major battles to fight.

Opponents, mainly Republicans, say they will seek to mobilize
popular outrage against any effort to legalize unauthorized immigrant
workers while so many Americans are out of jobs.

Democratic legislative aides said that opening a full-fledged
debate this year on immigration, particularly with health care as a
looming priority, could weigh down the president's domestic agenda.

Debate is still under way among administration officials about the
precise timing and strategy. For example, it is unclear who will take
up the Obama initiative in Congress.

No serious legislative talks on the issue are expected until after
some of Mr. Obama's other priorities have been de
bated, Congressional
aides said.

Just last month, Mr. Obama openly recognized that immigration is a
potential minefield.

"I know this is an emotional issue; I know it's a controversial
issue," he told an audience at a town meeting on March 18 in Costa
Mesa, Calif. "I know that the people get real riled up politically
about this."

But, he said, immigrants who are long-time residents but lack legal
status "have to have some mechanism over time to get out of the
shadows."

The White House is calculating that public support for fixing the
immigration system, which is widely acknowledged to be broken, will
outweigh opposition from voters who argue that immigrants take jobs
from Americans. A groundswell among voters opposed to legal status for
illegal immigrants led to the defeat in 2007 of a bipartisan
immigration bill that was strongly supported by President George W.
Bush.

Administration officials said that Mr. Obama's plan would not add
new workers to the American work force, but that it would recognize
millions of illegal immigrants who have already been working here.
Despite the deep recession, there is no evidence of any wholesale
exodus of illegal immigrant workers, independent studies of census data
show.

Opponents of legalization legislation were incredulous at the idea
that Mr. Obama would take on immigration when economic pain for

Americans is so widespread.

"It just doesn't seem rational that any political leader would say,
let's give millions of foreign workers permanent access to U.S. jobs
when we have millions of Americans looking for jobs," said Roy Beck,
executive director of NumbersUSA,
a group that favors reduced immigration. Mr. Beck predicted that Mr..
Obama would face "an explosion" if he proceeded this year.

"It's going to be, 'You're letting them keep that job, when I could
have that job,' " he said.

In broad outlines, officials said, the Obama administration favors
legislation that would bring illegal immigrants into the legal system
by recognizing that they violated the law, and imposing fines and other
penalties to fit the offense. The legislation would seek to prevent
future illegal immigration by strengthening border enforcement and
cracking down on employers who hire illegal immigrants, while creating
a national system for verifying the legal immigration status of new
workers.

But administration officials emphasized that many details remained to
be debated..

Opponents of a legalization effort said that if the Obama
administration maintained the enforcement pressure initiated by Mr..
Bush, the recession would force many illegal immigrants to return home.
Dan Stein, the president of the Federation for American Immigration 0D
Reform, said it would be "politically disastrous" for Mr. Obama to
begin an immigration initiative at this time.

Anticipating opposition, Mr. Obama has sought to shift some of the
political burden to advocates for immigrants, by encouraging them to
build support among voters for when his proposal goes to Congress.

That is why Representative Luis V. Gutierrez,
a Democrat from Mr. Obama's hometown, Chicago, has been on the road
most weekends since last December, traveling far outside his district
to meetings in Hispanic churches, hoping to generate something like a
civil rights movement in favor of broad immigration legislation.

Mr. Gutierrez was in Philadelphia on Saturday at the Iglesia
Internacional, a big Hispanic evangelical church in a former warehouse,
the 17th meeting in a tour that has included cities as far flung as
Providence, R.I.; Atlanta; Miami; and San Francisco. Greeted with
cheers and amens by a full house of about 350 people, Mr. Gutierrez,
shifting fluidly between Spanish and English, called for immigration
policies to preserve family unity, the strategic theme of his campaign.

At each meeting, speakers from the community, mainly citizens, tell
stories of loved ones who were deported or of delays and setbacks in
the immigration system.. Illegal immigrants have not been invited to
speak.

Mr. Gutierrez's meetings have all been held in churches, both
evangelical and Roman20Catholic, with clergy members from various
denominations, including in several places Muslim imams. At one meeting
in Chicago, Cardinal Francis George, president of the United States
Conference of Catholic Bishops, officiated.

One speaker on Saturday, Jill Flores, said that her husband, Felix,
an immigrant from Mexico who crossed the border illegally, had applied
for legal status five years ago but had not been able to gain it even
though she is an American citizen, as are their two children. Now, Ms.
Flores said, she fears that her husband will have to leave for Mexico
and will not be permitted to return for many years.

In an interview, Mr. Gutierrez rejected the idea that the timing is
bad for an immigration debate. "There is never a wrong time for us," he
said. "Families are being divided and destroyed, and they need help
now."

Jeff Zeleny contributed reporting.

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The New York Times Company

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On Politics and Humane Ethics ~ by Peta-de-Aztlan

On Politics and Humane Ethics ~ by Peta-de-Aztlan

 

Good Friday, April 10, 2009 ~

Chairman Mao stated in his Quotations that 'politics is war without bloodshed'. Definitely we can say that politics has a combative nature to it, such as, when political candidates 'fight' political 'battles' in election campaigns for public office or in Congress when they are proposing any controversial legislation and they know they will face 'opposition' from 'the other side'. There are 'war chests' for campaign finances.

Bobby Seale, former Chairman of the now defunct Black Panther Party, use to talk about making politics 'for real' and that politics was relating to the basic survival needs of the people, which in itself can be deemed as controversial for some.

Nowadays, the very words 'politics' and 'politicians' are dirty words that turn people off in an automatic reaction without any cognitive reasoning going on in their heads. Someone may be a concerned citizen and a decent humane being, but the mere mention of 'politics' turns them off, scares them away or makes them shrink back in horror!

When I was growing up my Father and I use to clash a lot. When we had a family get together I was warned by my Mom, along with him, not to discuss 'politics' or religion because it would routinely degenerate into a family argument, leaving my Mother in a quandary as to which side to choose: her husband or her oldest son. Usually we would be drinking booze so that would add fire into the mix. My Father has evolved as lot since those early days and I have become more analytical, reasonable and thoughtful in my communications in general. Plus, as a rule I no longer in indulge in alcohol and my father and I have cordial if distant dialogues.

The Online Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines 'politics' as so:
Main Entry: pol•i•tics Listen to the pronunciation of politics
Pronunciation:\?pä-l?-?tiks\
Function:noun plural but singular or plural in construction
Etymology:Greek politika, from neuter plural of politikos political
Date:circa 1529
1 a: the art or science of government b: the art or science concerned with guiding or influencing governmental policy c: the art or science concerned with winning and holding control over a government 2: political actions, practices, or policies 3 a: political affairs or business ; especially : competition between competing interest groups or individuals for power and leadership (as in a government) b: political life especially as a principal activity or profession c: political activities characterized by artful and often dishonest practices 4: the political opinions or sympathies of a person5 a: the total complex of relations between people living in society b: relations or conduct in a particular area of experience especially as seen or dealt with from a political point of view

Connected reality, which encompasses all objective and subjective realities independently of the mind (which often gets us into trouble with its 'stinkin' thinkin'), connects all of us on the cosmic level. In fact, no one individual exists in-and-of himself independent from any external objective reality.

In a traditional understanding of politics it is often linked with the word 'corruption' and politicians in general are usually seen a 'dirty politicians'. Many times politicians are seen as being on the take, that is, taking money in the form of bribes that may be disguised as lobbying by Special Interests' in order to sway their votes on a given issue or piece of legislation. What is seen as political expediency may be seen as a compromise but the politician easily walks onto shaky ground when a given compromise may involve him or her compromising basic humane ethics.

Life is not all black-and-white and often more complex than a simple YES or NO. Sometimes certain compromises may have to be made in terms of tactics, schedules and priorities, but we enter an area of slimy darkness when we start compromising our own basic humane ethics, our true understanding of what is right versus what is wrong, our gut feelings that often tell us whether a certain matter embraces justice or not.

The truth is we are all impacted by politics and the decisions made by politicians who are elected officials, so no one can play the innocent virgin. Politics today has real deep and far-reaching influences on us that we may not even be aware of yet help shape the way we live our lives. Who knows that new laws came into effect on January 1st of 2009? Imagine a law that if broken can end up with you committing a crime that maybe you did not even know was a law to be broken!!! Remember the saying that ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law?

Thus, people need to be aware and stay aware of what is going on in the realm of politics and not play the flightless dodo bird with their heads in the sand thinking they are invisible so nobody sees them. All of us need to adopt a basic set of humane ethics and core values in relation to what we consider to be right, fair, just and morally correct, not necessarily what is politically correct. Political correctness can easily betray our own basic principles. In essence, we should stick to our guns, in this context, stick to our basic humane principles and let us hope that our principles are indeed ethical and humane.

In life we must often define our terms because many misunderstandings and breakdowns in communications happen because people use the same words yet can have way different personal definitions of those words. What is ethical and what is humane? We need basic ground rules for our general analyzes, social dialogues and personal conversations.

For starters, let us agree on the basics of the Ten Commandments of the Holy Bible (now don't run off and jump to conclusions), especially the ones about 'You Shall Not Kill' and 'You Shall Not Steal'. Right there we can run into trouble because we will give a man of Medal of Honor for his killing in one situation and sentence him to the Death Penalty in another killing situation. Let us utilize that often rarely used notion of common sense and take a leap of faith in order to behold the existence of the 'average reasoning person'.

To strive to keep it simple and not complicate the simple, let us begin with the basic principle that life is sacred and that the taking of a life without valid reason is profane, is wrong, is unjust. Thus, there is such a thing as a justifiable homicide in an extreme situation. We will go further and state that all those ways that support life, that protect life, that enrich life and that better life for all of us are good humane ways. A humane being has care, concern and compassion for all living beings. Let us hope and pray that our politicians have a core set of humane values, of humane ethics and humane principles that govern their souls, their minds and their decisions in ways that are of real benefit to all peoples. In the cosmic analysis, we must not compromise our humane ethics in the arena of politics where wars are fought daily.

Democracy as a political system of government only works well when it is a true participatory democracy, not merely a representative democracy. All citizens of a land should have the basic right to vote, including the condemned prisoner. If democracy is rule by the majority its core essence should be to treasure the humane rights of the individual and thereby the humane rights of all of us.

Once again, we must redefine politics as the means through which we come together, work out our basic differences, govern a society often on the verge of mass mayhem with humane ethics and a body of principles that truly exemplify 'life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness' for all of us. When the rights of anyone are violated by an unjust power this should be seen as a violation against all of us and such violations should be strongly condemned by any means mandatory.

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San Jose: POLICE, JOBS, BANKS, CENSUS: IS THE MAYOR DOING ENOUGH?

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POLICE, JOBS, BANKS, CENSUS: IS THE MAYOR DOING ENOUGH?

Thursday, 09 April 2009

The Mayor of San Jose, answers questions about the San Jose Police Department. Photo by Franklin Andrade By Patty Lopez The SJPD has had its difficulties staying out of the spotlight. A glare caused by the disproportionate amount of Latinos and Blacks being arrested for public intoxication has many going head to head over this issue. Some people recently stood up to speak out at a public forum and ironically used blatantly offensive and racist stereotypes in an attempt to defend the San Jose Police Department. San Jose Mayor Chuck Reed addressed the issue to the local Latino press on April 3rd, where instead of flat out denying that the arrests have any correlation with race, ethnicity, or skin color he conceded, "We have problems we have to deal with." Taking a proactive step forward he repeated a question he's already asked many people, "How do we know racial profiling is NOT happening?" The question, not posed often enough, has helped Reed gain some momentum with the chief of police, local leaders and community members resulting in a three-tier effort to tackle this epidemic head on. Reed said, "The chief has implemented some changes, and some supervision rules have changed. A public intoxication task force has been initiated." The city has also enlisted the help of an outside organization the Consortium for Police in Leadership in Equity (CPLE) to research the issue, which Reed says, "could take months." The Mayor's office is also working in conjunction with La Raza Roundtable to design a summit that will focus on this issue. Reed also took this opportunity with the Latino Media to get the word out about some valuable resources that are or will be available to the residents of San Jose. Such as Bank On San Jose, Summer jobs for youth and the U.S. Census. In an effort to promote financial literacy among non-English speaking communities Bank on San Jose aims to help people towards financial freedom by providing the necessary tools and education. Partnering with the United Way Silicon Valley, Bank of America, Bank of the West, and Citibank, among others, Jim Dale a program manager for Bank on San Jose says, "We can help people with no prior bank experience, or those who have had bad banking experiences, as well as people who only have an ITN number or a matricula card to open a checking account." The Mayor also announced some good news for the youth! 5 million in federal stimulus dollars will be used for the creation of summer jobs saying, "The safe summer initiative brought down juvenile crime rates. We may create jobs to promote the green initiative and get real value out of their work." Starting this month census workers are address canvassing neighborhoods. Although Reed will not let up on his resistance to make San Jose a "sanctuary city" his office affirms that census workers have no affiliation with ICE or INS and reiterate the importance of providing accurate information because federal funds are awarded to cities based on census data. For census questions or concerns call (408) 343-8140.

 

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Education for Liberation!
Peter S. Lopez aka: Peta

Sacramento, California, Aztlan
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