Thursday Morning @5:01 AM
Well I am on my first cup of coffee. Let us move on!
I first got involved with an online group when I became a member of the old AIM Yahoo Group that eventually fell apart because of internal group divisions. I learned a lot from that experience, especially about Native Americans who are on the Internet. There is now a new Yahoo AIM Group that is more user friendly, but still stuck in the mud of old ineffective traditional ways with the character defects of modern ways: egotism, individualism and tribalism.
The old AIM Yahoo Group got into attacking each other and some of its members knew each other in person and had direct interactions with each other which resulted in some improper behavior. There was some discussion about FBI infiltrationn agenda provacateurs and such matters. I'll let it go at that.
In that group, I was limited in what I could post by the Group Moderators which was more of a clique. Fortunately, I met a few key people online from that group, incuding Lakota Sioux members, with whom I still have contact. Overall, I came to have a greater appreciation of my own native-indigenous roots planted in the Chiricahua Apache and Sonoran Yaqui tribes.
I always look and see interconnections between different topics and keep it mind the humaneness of us all. Thus, so I could exercise my freedom of creative expression and dialogue with other kindred-souls, I started my own online group called the Humane-Rights-Agenda Yahoo Group:
Members: 348
Category: Human Rights
Founded: Jul 22, 2001
Language: English
Group Settings:
Membership does not require approval
Messages do not require approval
All members can post messages
Email attachments are permitted
Members cannot hide email address
Listed in directory
Notice I started the Humane-Rights-Agenda Group PRE-911 of 2001, which will always be a dividing timeline in modern human history.
I joined up with Aztlan News Group on August 25, 2006 now called NetworkAztlan_News. We lost contact with some members from the name change instituted by GB, but I hope they get hip to the new name changes. Yes, there is a Yahoo Group function that notifies new members of group name changes, but sometimes individual Emails work best.
It is good that we have some heavyweights here, though, there are elements of egotism that we have to watch out for at time goes by.
It is good for us to welcome newcomers, encourage them to express themselves and be open to new ideas, new forms of growth and new ways of looking at old subjects. Newcomers are the lifeline of any kind of group endeavor.
It is good that we have some heavyweights here, though, there are elements of egotism that we have to watch out for at time goes by.
It is good for us to welcome newcomers, encourage them to express themselves and be open to new ideas, new forms of growth and new ways of looking at old subjects. Newcomers are the lifeline of any kind of group endeavor.
Of course action is primary and there is the companion Aztlan Action Yahoo Group: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NetworkAztlan_Action/
Although it is also a news source the primary emphasis should be on specific action-oriented events. So there is some duplication and overlapping going on with the two groups, then, there are two others.
So these different groups get cumbersome and this needs to be looked at to avoid redundancy. All social issues are inherently interconnected. I primarily post news items to the news group and actually have a real vibrant life away from the computer that keeps me busy.
So these different groups get cumbersome and this needs to be looked at to avoid redundancy. All social issues are inherently interconnected. I primarily post news items to the news group and actually have a real vibrant life away from the computer that keeps me busy.
Today, after my work at the TSA shelter I plan to go to the AA-All Tribes Group at the local Indian Health Center and fellowship there. Then I need to do some planning for my upcoming trip to San Francisco where I will be staying from Sunday morning to Tuesday evening.
I am watching CNN News right now. Did anyyone see Billy Clinton last night on the Larry King Show? It love the news because it is new every day and night. Action is fine but it must be enlightened by guiding principles, sound analyses and humane soulful qualities. The key is to always be actively involved in raising consciousness, including our own.
Venceremos! ~Che Peta
P.S. "There will be many Ches." ~ Fidel Castro
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Venceremos! ~Che Peta
P.S. "There will be many Ches." ~ Fidel Castro
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EUGENE Hernandez <chicanostudent@hotmail.com> wrote:
__._,_.___Thank you Bill
Eugene Hernandez
From: "Peter S. Lopez de-Aztlan" <sacranative@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: NetworkAztlan_News@yahoogroups .com
To: NetworkAztlan_News@yahoogroups .com, NetworkAztlan_ News-owner@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [NetworkAztlan_News] Sorry + Moderators= from Peta
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:28:06 -0700 (PDT)
Wednesday ~ Hump Day~ @6:52 AM Venceremos!
We will win so long as we always keep in mind the power of unity based upon revolutionary principles and solidarity based upon humane love, incisive intelligence and mutual understanding. I am only one of the Moderatrors. GB is the Webmaster.Re-read Guillermo mensaje:My life revolves around my work in different spheres of activity. I simply do not have the real time to open and read all the Emails for this Group, plus, keep in mind that I also am the Moderator for several other groups, including the Humane-Rights-Agenda, the Immigrant-Rights- Agenda and others. So you can call me the ass-o. I pray we all have one. We need to stop and think a minute before we post Group Messages and keep in mind the distinction between a rational response and a mere emotional reaction in our mensajes. Some matters could be discussed below the Group level.
With all due respect, let us not start flaming each other like a bunch of left-nut gringos. We are natural natives of Aztlan! Fuck Amerika!
I will be going to San Francisco this next weekend for a few days and will be going into the Mission District to spin webs with a few activists and artistas.In the future, we can communicate via chat room and conference calls. Plus, I am with GB and am interested in other forms of media besides online groups, including blogs, videos and other creative expressions.Most of our gente are not even on the Internet and some are lucky to just have electricity and running water! Hell, I want to get involved with a basic community literacy program.Much remains to be done and we have to make up our minds to stay strong, stay tight together and be in this for the long haul of protracted war. If you can't run with the big dogs stay on the porch by your bowl. We must lead, follow or get out of the way. This is war!
Remember: in a revolution one wins or one dies!I need to get ready for work at the shelter, go clean toilets and take out the trash. It ain't easy being a Counselor!I have taken the liberty, iove taking my liberty, of posting up a list of our Moderators. Maybe we can have Rosaiio and Eugene as Moderators too. The harvest is fruitful but the laborers are few.
~Nada mas ahora. ~ Che PetaI
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May 30, 2006
Rosalio Munoz <rosalio_munoz@sbcglobal. wrote:net> Eugene,
Eugene. I don't believe you ever asked me to spread
the word about this guy Mr. K or to call any station
managers. Maybe you asked aztlan news group to do
these things, thinking I was involved with it. In any
event couldn't you have just written out your concern
in your own name and "spread it around" the Aztlan
newsgroup (actually the name is NetworkAztlan_News que chicanostudent@
no?). Maybe you wrote using my name and since I
wasn't there whoever received it ignored it? Anyway
how you reacted to the ideas you mistakenly thought
was still inappropriate, an attack the personality of
individuals and not criticizing the politics. But
then again you and I apparently disagree on many
political principles. Rosalio Munoz
--- EUGENE Hernandez <hotmail.com >
wrote:
> You are right Peta I should explain-
>
> 1. I thought that Rosalio was in charge of the
> Aztlan newsgroup.
> 2. I had asked him to spread the word that in Los
> Angeles, there was a
> progressive radio host named Harrison on the Edge on
> KTLK, part of the
> Progressive Radio/ Air America network station.
> 3. He was replaced with MR. K, from a right wing
> station. Allegedly MR. K
> changed his tune, despite the fact that until
> recently he still supported
> the IRAQ War.
> 4. Now MR K and his producer LIsa has taken to
> mocking Elivira Arellano
> story and making fun of her by playing that country
> western song "ELVIRA"
> stating that no Latino could have her sons name,
> that only Jewish people are
> named Saul.
> 5. Further he uses his show to daily attack
> Immigrants in a blatant racist
> manner and demeans callers to defend Arrellano and
> attack Bush;s policy on
> immigration
> I had urged Rosalio to pass the word to call the
> Station Managers and
> Clear Channel to kick MR. K off the air, while on
> the subject, the other
> radio host, Ed Shultz has had Minute men on the air
> but no Chicano
> organization on the air to debate Immigration
> questions- We should contact
> Clear Channel and demand that they be kicked of
>
> Eugene Hernandez
>
> From: "Peter S. Lopez de-Aztlan"
> <sacranative@yahoo.com >
> Reply-To: NetworkAztlan_News@yahoogroups .com
> To: NetworkAztlan_News@yahoogroups .com
> Subject: Eugene> Re: [NetworkAztlan_News] Javier is chicanostudent@
> right- you are such an
> asshole Rosalio, if the items you put forth are
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 22:36:45 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Compa Eugene ~ Explain. What are you not saying?
> What are you trying to
> share? This shoud be OUR News Group! Be in
> solidarity! ~Peta
>
> EUGENE Hernandez <hotmail.com > wrote:
>
> Cp, they are not worth mentioning according to your
> way of thinking- why
> bother with the Aztlan news group? it should be
> Rosalio news group.
>
> Eugene Hernandez
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Rosalio Munoz
> Reply-To: NetworkAztlan_News@yahoogroups .com
> To: rosalio_munoz@sbcglobal. net
> Subject: [NetworkAztlan_News] Make a Call for agarcia@nnirr.
> Justice & Human Rights on
> Thurs. and Fri. Sept 6-7: "Stop Enforc...
> Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:46:07 -0700 (PDT)
>
> Dear NNIRR Members, Partners & Allies,
>
> Please join us with the American Friends Service
> Committee and other partners to call on Congress
> this
> Thursday and Friday, September 6-7, 2007, to express
> our opposition to the latest border militarization
> and
> immigration enforcement bill, introduced by
> Senators,
> John McCain (R-AZ), Jon Kyle (R-AZ) and John Cornyn
> (R-TX), the Immigration Enforcement and Border
> Security Act of 2007 (S. 1984)
>
> We urge you to call your Senators and continue
> demanding socially just legalization, restoration of
> civil liberties, protection and expansion of civil,
> labor and human rights for all immigrants, and an
> end
> to the raids and all immigrant detentions and
> deportations.
>
> CALL TOLL FREE: 1-888-732-9404 and ask to be
> connected
> to your Senators. (see AFSC talking points below)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Arnoldo Garcia
> National Network for Immigrant and Refugee Rights
> Red Nacional Pro Derechos Inmigrantes y Refugiados
> 310 8th Street Suite 303
> Oakland, CA 94607
> Tel (510) 465-1984 ext 305
> Fax (510) 465-1885
>org
> www.nnirr.org
> www.migrantdiaries.blogspot. com
>
> ++++++++++
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>
>
> PRIORITY COMMUNITY ALERT
> NATIONAL CALL-IN DAYS
>
> American Friends Service Committee and Partners*
> Invite Your Participation
>
> Thursday September 6 & Friday September 7, 2007
> Stop Immigration Enforcement-Only Policies
>
> Take Action Now: The recently introduced Immigration
> Enforcement and Border Security Act of 2007 (S.
> 1984)
> focuses on punishing immigrant families, adding
> border
> fences, walls, and patrol agents, and increasing
> detention centers and deportations. In addition, the
> Department of Homeland Security (DHS) finalized a
> new
> rule requiring employers who receive Social Security
> Administration (SSA) "no-match" letters to follow
> steps to prove that employees are authorized to work
> or risk liability. The policy misuses the letters,
> which are not intended for immigration enforcement,
> and could result in employment discrimination.
> Congress has received thousands of calls supporting
> enforcement-only measures that will harm immigrants
> and refugees. We must let Senate leaders know that
> this flawed legislation and DHS policy will not fix
> the out-of-date immigration system. Spread the word!
>
> Call your Senator and Share this Action Alert!
>
> On September 6th and 7th, use this toll free number
> 1-888-732-9404. Ask to be connected to your
> Senator's
> office and tell your Senator:
>
> § Please say NO to S. 1984! - I urge you to oppose
> the Immigration Enforcement and Border Security Act
> of
> 2007 (S. 1984). More fences, walls, detention
> centers, agents and rounding up immigrants at their
> homes and workplaces are not the answer.
>
> § Please SUPPORT Congressional oversight of DHS's
> SSA
> "no match" letter policy including employer
> liability
> for employment discrimination and the complaint
> process.
>
> § Please say YES to constructive immigration reform
> that includes a path to permanent residency and
> citizenship, restores due process rights, stops the
> militarization of the southern border, and ensures
> humane policies that keep families together.
>
> The toll-free number is provided courtesy of the
> American Friends Service Committee, a Quaker
> organization which works for social justice and
> peace
> (www.afsc.org/immigrants- rights/). AFSC welcomes
> groups to circulate and use the toll-free number in
> support of non-partisan goals and without linking
> the
> alert to a website soliciting donations or actions
> which may be used to support partisan lobbying or
> work. (This nonpartisan disclaimer must be included
> in publications of the toll-free number).
>
> Don't Forget to Forward this Message! For more
> information contact Sara Ibrahim at
>org
> or 1-202-483-6839.
>
> * Partners (In Formation): Chicago Workers
>
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